Episode 24 - Natalie Dwyer West

  

  

In this episode, I talk to Natalie Dwyer West, a representative of Kangen water from Enagic Global.

Kangen Water® is delicious water created from Enagic®'s innovative water technology that produces ionised alkaline and acidic waters through electrolysis. Enagic® is proud to be one of the only water purification and ionisation companies in the world that carries four distinct certifications from the Water Quality Association.

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In this episode we cover: 

  • Natalie’s journey to finding Kangen water.
  • What Kangen water has done for Natalie.
  • How the machine works and delivers several types of water.
  • The difference between bottled, tap and Kangen water.
  • Situations where you should not use Kangen water.
  • The best internal and external results that Kangen water has given users.
  • The history of Kangen Water.

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    Transcript:

    FELICITY:

    Welcome to the All Torque podcast, where each episode we interview an inspiring person to share their story with you. I'm your host, Felicity Dales, managing director of Body Torque.

    I have here today, Natalie Dwyer West who has a background as a clinical psychotherapist, a master self-image and relationship coach, international speaker and also represents Kangen water from Enagic Global; change your water, change your life. Enagic Global produces a water ioniser that produces high alkaline and powerful antioxidising ionised water called Kangen water. Enagic is proud to be one of the only water purification and ionisation companies the world that carries four distinct certifications from the Water Only Association by integrating the latest scientific research, along with Japanese craftsmanship. It is patented and trademarked. Kangen water is created by using innovative water technology that not only filters your tap water but also produces ionised alkaline and acidic waters through electrolysis.

    There are five water types. More and more pro athletes and teams in football, baseball, basketball and tennis are switching to Kangen water to give them the edge they are looking for. It can dramatically improve athletic performance and assist with muscle recovery, with no soreness or cramping. It offers six times better hydration, superior electrolyte replenishment, faster muscle recovery, resulting in a stronger performance. Welcome Natalie.

    NATALIE:

    Hi. Hi Felicity, thank you.

    FELICITY:

    Great to have you.

    NATALIE:

    Thank you very much.

    FELICITY:

    You're welcome. Tell us about your journey Natalie. How did you find and get into Kangen water and what has it done for you?

    NATALIE:

    Oh wow. So for myself, I'd always been quite aware that tap water was not the best thing to drink. I'm a big researcher and I've also come from a background obviously, being a psychotherapist, I treat people holistically and it's not just talking to people from a mindset. It's also talking about what you're actually feeding your body and one of the big things is what you're actually drinking. Up to 74% of our brain is water, it's actually 74.5% actually is our brain.

    FELICITY:

    That's high.

    NATALIE:

    It is very high. Even if you look at your kidneys, they're 83% so we are made up of water. So for me, I'd always been very aware that the chlorine in water and the fluoride in water ..  And there's so many research studies now done, that point to the direction of how bad that is for your brain, let alone your pineal gland as well. So for me, I was on this search and information for my clients to get them drinking a better type of water.

    And also too with our tap water, and just a bit of a scientific element around that, the actual water molecules are quite large in tap water and most waters that don't have an electrolysis process. If I give you a synopsis of how that looks ..  If you look at a regular water cluster, there are around 15 to 20 in a group, so they're actually quite big. So if you think about cellular absorption, it's not really absorbing into your cells as quickly. Whereas if you look at what we do, the structure is between four to six water molecules, so they're all split in half, so basically what that means is then you're hydrating your body, as you just said in the intro, six times and sometimes higher than that, far better than tap water. Without all the chemicals.

    So, for me I was always really aware of that and I'd never drunk tap water for many, many years and I haven't actually touched fluoride for even longer than that, and my teeth are okay! That's one of the big things you always, "Oh you need fluoride for your teeth." "Yeah, no, we're not meant to be drinking it." That's why it says, don't swallow the toothpaste.

    FELICITY:

    That’s right.

    NATALIE:

    ..which is an interesting point.

    Even with bottled water, myself, I was kind of like, "It tastes weird, it's expensive", and then the other side of it for me too and also too for clients, it's like the plastic. Where does that all end up?

    FELICITY:

    That’s right.

    NATALIE:

    Another big note as well.

    I came from a background as well from the bodybuilding industry so I've always been very mindful of what I'm feeding my body and what I'm putting into my cells. I'm a big researcher so I understood that I needed something that was going to be a form of alkaline that also too had that restructured component. And I was just at a seminar one day, and it was totally not even related to water and I heard a colleague talking about his magic water and I'm like, "I beg your pardon? What is that?" So he told me that he had found this amazing product, and I'm like, "Right, give me the information, I need to know right now." I literally went home, I researched the hell out of all of it and I'm like, "Right, that's a no-brainer, I'm in, I'm done."

    So for me purchasing my own system, it was a no brainer, I did it that day and then literally I looked further into the process, the company and I just fell in love. Then just partnered with them to really get this message out that, one, we understand around bottled water is, and most people actually probably don't know listening ..  When you actually test bottled water, it actually goes yellow, which is highly acidic for your body. So if you're talking about a pH level, really you should be drinking everything from a 7 pH up to about a 9, which changes colour. So when you test, and I've tested all of them, just about every bottled water there is, even overseas as well in Canada because I travel back and forward quite a lot, they all go yellow. Which is 2.5 pH on the scale, so that's highly acidic to your body. And I love science, I'm a little bit of a science nerd as well so you can't undo something when you've put a pH tester in water. It's science. It changes it immediately so it's awesome.

    FELICITY:

    Yeah I've had pH testing, the strips, and done that and also looked at the chart and looked at that with food as well to see what's acidic and non-acidic and the pH levels. It's really interesting, I know what you're saying about the middle level, that green level around 7, 7.5 to 9, so it's interesting.

    NATALIE:

    Yeah and even with ..  especially Canada, America and Australia probably have some of the worst water from the fluoride, chlorine and lime point. So what they do, they actually also put lime in the water to actually bring up the pH so when you do test it, it can be borderline yellow/green. But it's not naturally like that. It's been manipulated like that. And if you then look to say, Europe, which they've done now nearly most of Europe, they've actually stopped fluoridisation now in the water. So they've had that many, many years and now they've actually stopped it.

    It's purely based, Felicity, just really on the research studies that are done on the effects of fluoride and chlorine on your body.

    FELICITY:

    And you can really taste the difference, like you say, in Europe. I notice it when I travel. It's really quite dramatic.

    NATALIE:

    It's a massive difference yeah. And it's one thing now, I carry my water everywhere, I don't drink anything other than my reverse water, so it's something that when I'm due travelling, it's no good for me, because I'm just like, "Oh gosh", when I'm buying the bottled water, it's like, "Ew."

    FELICITY:

    You don't have a choice, that's the problem isn't it?

    NATALIE:

    You don't. But I do find people around the world that have the machines, so I'm like, "Here! Here's my 10 litre bottle. Can you fill it up please?"

    FELICITY:

    So how long have you been on it now Natalie?

    NATALIE:

    So I actually ..  My journey started around 3.5 years ago, so I've been on the water now for 3 years. So, some personal experiences for me, with the water. I had really, really bad hayfever for many, many years and I'm talking like one anti-histamine a day for years, because it was just really bad. It was around 4 months in, that I had noticed obviously ..  

    Just the side note on that, just with other things that I felt was my sleep. The sleep, being on the water, was like nothing else I could explain. It was just deep sleep, calm sleep, woke up a lot more refreshed, wasn't getting up and down in the night going to the toilet, because that's obviously what normal water does. Because the water clusters are so large, it's just going straight through your body, so you're actually always in the toilet. Whereas with our water, because it's being absorbed into the cell directly and immediately, you're not in the toilet all the time, because you're hydrating.

    FELICITY:

    It's going into your body.

    NATALIE:

    Correct. My skin, I've always been told I look 15, even 20 years younger than I do, and I don't do anything other than my water because it's obviously an antioxidant as well.

    My eyesight, I actually used to wear glasses, so I don't wear glasses anymore. So I was actually quite blind at night. I used to have to wear glasses at night. I can't really pinpoint exactly what length of time it was, but I remember putting my glasses on to drive and I'm like, "Woah, I need to go get a new script, they're a little bit blurry." I went and had my eyes tested and he said, "Nope, your eyes are great, no problem."

    We work with a lot of people that are very, very high up in orthomolecular testing and all of that kind of thing and I asked the question and they're like, "Well yeah, it's got to do with all the toxins and stuff in your body but once they're released, your eyes are one of the things that are affected the most."

    I haven't had hayfever in three and a half years.

    FELICITY:

    That's fantastic.

    NATALIE:

    It's amazing. It is amazing. For me they're little things, but there's so many people that I've worked with that have had such amazing things. I'm talking about fertility, people that haven't been ovulating all of a sudden started ovulating again after being on the water for a couple of months.

    Now because this is the other thing too, Felicity, a lot of people are pretty aware that water is important but also too from the other side of it, what you've just discussed earlier in the intro, there is actually up to eight different types of water in some of the other systems. So, the one that I have actually produces up to eight, so what that means, is I've actually taken out over 11 chemicals out of my house, because I just use the water to clean my house. Because we have 2.5, which is like an antiseptic, so if you've got a sore throat you gargle that so you don't have to go buy all those other things that you would normally buy. There's also an 11.5 pH alkaline high acid-alkaline water which basically I clean my whole house with. I wash my fruit and vegetables in that water as well and it's actually quite frightening ..  

    So to give you an idea too, with most fruit and veggies you buy, they do have chemical residue on them. Unless you're buying organic, then everyone is aware of that. Because you can feel it. The fruit's shiny, weird looking. If you soak that in tap water, the chloride soaks into the fruit and the vegetables and also too it doesn't take off the pesticide residue. And I've got photos even on my social media and stuff have a lot of photos around me soaking strawberries and then the water before and after. It's disgusting.

    FELICITY:

    Quite dramatic is it?

    NATALIE:

    It's quite dramatic yeah. It looks like urine to be honest. The colour. So, if you look at it from a holistic point, yes, the hydration level and the amount of antioxidant properties that you are putting into your body, but also it transfers through to the rest of your house. It's phenomenal.

    FELICITY:

    So how do you do or get five types of water? What do you do to get that result?

    NATALIE:

    So basically, the machine converts the water. Through the electrolysis process ..  So the other word that's really, really important for people to understand when they're looking for something that they really want to benefit their health long-term ..  The word technically is called electrolysed reduced water. What that does, it protects you against oxidative damage to your DNA. So what that basically means .. So if you talk about things like normal bottled water, Gatorade, all of those drinks that you normally hear out there, they're oxidising, they’re harmful to your body, so they're highly, highly, acidic. Not let alone they're full of sugar but if we're looking at a scale, they're a positive, so that's really bad for yourself.

    So when we talk about the electrolysed reduced water, you're talking about a negative. So it's a negative ionised property that's actually ..  It's helping your cells regenerate instead of taking away. So for example, vitamin C on a scale of, in an antioxidant property is around 50, which is awesome, you've got to take it every day. Whereas the structure of our water is 500. So that's a massive, massive, difference. And the reason why we know that, is because we use ORP meters, so they're Oxidising Reduction Potential meters, that's the technical word. So they're a little machine that have a little probe in them and you pop the probe in the water, and it actually brings up an anti-oxidising property amount of numbers. So the higher the number, the better it is for your cells and the damage to your stress of your body.

    So I always say to people, if they're wanting to look at our research studies, we have so many on PubMed which is actually a medical institute for science and all of that. The company's been around for decades, so we're all over the testing.

    If we go back to your question earlier with the eight types of water, what happens is the machine ..  It's all automated so it has a little LCD screen at the front, so for example if I'm wanting to get a high acidic water out to clean my shower, I just press the button and then there's two different taps and the tap comes out with the water that I want to clean with, and then the machine itself recreates the pH level that it needs inside the machine. So it goes over eight titanium plates and the machine needs to be plugged in, so that's why when we're talking about electrolysed, it needs to be electrolysed so it can actually reduce the structure of the water.

    FELICITY:

    Right. So it's plugged in to power and off you go?

    NATALIE:

    Correct. And they're portable. They're not plumbed in, they're ..  If you're renting or doing anything like that, they're literally a beautiful little machine ..  There's different colours as well, we have a white one as well as stainless steel for people's kitchens. You plug it in, it literally takes 10 minutes if you've got a pretty modern type tap, and you're away. And that's it.

    I even know some people in Canada that travel with theirs. They have two; they have one in their home and they also have the smaller system that they just take and they have the conversion plugs and they just travel with it.

    FELICITY:

    I think once you're converted you really wouldn't want to change. So as you say, once you travel it could be a bit daunting, it's not really in alignment with your principles or values is it? Once you hop onto it?

    NATALIE:

    It isn't. You're right. And you actually feel the difference. And that's one of the biggest things that I say to people. You actually get so used to feeling so good, and especially as I said earlier, being in the body building industry, I still train a lot. I don't suffer from cramps. I don't suffer from lactic acid. And also too, when you're putting supplements inside electrolysed water, your uptake is just phenomenal.

    FELICITY:

    They'd be much stronger.

    NATALIE:

    Yeah. Much stronger. The only thing that we suggest from a medical point is when you're taking medication ..  I don't mean like Panadols or anything like that, I'm talking about proper .. That's been prescribed by a Doctor, we just recommend using the 7 pH water on the machine, so that's just a neutral water. It's still oxidized, but it doesn't have the alkaline point that absorbs it in really quickly.

    The amount of protocols around the water, it's phenomenal about what it can do and especially for people listening in your fitness industry, it's massive. Because you need water. It's one of the main go-tos..

    FELICITY:

    That’s right.

    NATALIE:

    ..people trying to hydrate themselves. And you can tell the difference too, once you drink electrolysed water for a period of time and then you go in to buy bottled water or you drink tap water, you feel the difference straight away, immediately.

    FELICITY:

    Well considering our body is 75% water and we actually drink it multiple times a day, throughout the day, it's quite a high priority I would have thought. Is there any situation, Natalie, where you would not use Kangen water?

    NATALIE:

    Look I would normally say if someone has quite bad kidneys that I would suggest to them not to be drinking anything over the 7. So they can still drink the neutral water, but I wouldn't suggest going anything higher up into the alkaline states of water.

    FELICITY:

    What is the best result you've seen? With all the people that you've worked with?

    NATALIE:

    Well, one of them that pops into my head right now, we also have a shower unit that actually takes out all of the chloride and fluoride out of the shower. So for anyone that has psoriasis, anything to do with any skin condition, I literally have before and afters from a lady in Queensland who, her son had very severe eczema and psoriasis on his legs. He had basically been showering in our magic system, it was about two weeks and the difference was just mind blowing. It literally disappeared.

    FELICITY:

    Wow. What a relief. For that kid.

    NATALIE:

    And this is the other thing. With skin, external, it starts internal as well. So he was obviously drinking the water, as well as bathing in the water or showering in it, and chloride and fluoride are so bad for drying out your skin. It's like when you go to the pool and you get out of the pool water and you feel like you're a prune because you're just so tight. Your skin feels so tight. There's so many ..  We have a massive Facebook group where we actually have all of our people from around the world that actually go in and talk about their own results. We've had people with Crohn's Disease that have gone into remission.

    We have high level sports people globally drinking our water. Tom Brady, from The Patriots, Gillian Michaels, like I've given you heaps of info around all the people that drink our water. We have celebrities that drink our water, but for me and I think for most people that I work with, it's great to be aware that people in that space know what's best for them, they want to drink the best water on Earth ..  I actually just like to work with people individually and make sure they're getting the right information, they're getting the right system that's for themselves and their families and just to answer any personal questions that they have with themselves.

    Like I said, just even with myself, my eyesight, hayfever ..  I had my cellular tests done. I'm 46 and I came back 15 years younger than I should be, so I was pretty happy with that! But you know what it comes back to? It all comes back to being hydrated. All I guess, if I talk about all the high inflammatory diseases out there now, it's because your body's not hydrated. Your body's inflamed.

    FELICITY:

    Yeah that's right. And there's a lot of inflammatory or inflammation out there, especially with cyclists. For instance, I know of a few and some people take, whatever they take to reduce it. It's interesting that it can be really so easily solved and I always do believe that diet has a big factor in our health.

    NATALIE:

    Huge.

    FELICITY:

    As you mentioned, tap water, bottled water and even reverse osmosis water, which we think would be healthy, isn't so effective, as chemicals like pesticides and herbicides or chlorine are molecularly smaller than water so even that really pass through the filter, which doesn't create the benefit that we think we're getting. So how does Kangen water work then? They've got more filters have they, because of the molecular structure it reduces that? Or takes it out?

    NATALIE:

    So basically it's the electricity, it's the titanium plates so for example with the K8, the one that I have, most people have, so there's eight titanium plates in there which then actually produces those eight types of water, but the thing is too, is the actual water will go through two external filters and one internal filter. So what it does, it takes out the chlorine and the fluoride and then also too it goes through an electrolysis process that then manipulates the structure of the water.

    So there's actually a place in France that actually ..  This is exactly why Enagic started back in 1972. They sent scientists up to ..  There's a place in France and I've just lost the word now but I'll find it for your listeners. The water actually is electrolysed by the rocks and it's the only place in the world that actually has electrolysed reduced water naturally. And people go there to drink the water and to travel there. So what Enagic did back in 1972 ..  Just to give you a bit of history about them too, they actually started purely for hospitals. So Enagic started making systems for alkaline high based water for Doctors in Japan, because they were aware that the oxidative stress on people's bodies and how alkaline .. If we look at Japan, they've got some of the smartest, smartest Doctors in the world over there. So that's really where it started and then they were supplying them into hospitals, as they still do, and then Doctor Shinyar actually started using the water in his colonoscopy processes, so he became one of the biggest advocates for alkaline diet with food and electrolysed reduced water in a diet.

    So basically he will ..  We've got statements from him saying that once they've been on that, and then obviously drinking the electrolysed juice water, he has not had one returned case of cancer in his patients.

    FELICITY:

    That's awesome. That's amazing.

    NATALIE:

    It's huge, it's huge. And then basically Enagic were like, "Well hold on, why are we just doing it to hospitals? Why aren't we just talking to people who are actually drinking tap water, which shouldn't be drinking tap water, and getting them to understand the difference between the molecular structure of the water?" That's the key. It's got to be electrolysed, so then the machine itself really just manipulates that structure, so that you're basically hydrating yourself immediately.

    FELICITY:

    Well that would have a massive impact, I would imagine, for athletes as well especially in hotter climates and in particular, for longer races like the Hawaiian Iron Man and things like that. It would be really interesting to hear from some athletes that are using it and doing that kind of activity, intense exercise etcetera. Yeah that's really fascinating. It's been really interesting chatting with you today..

    NATALIE:

    Thank you.

    FELICITY:

    .. and learning more about that Kangen water and definitely inspiring, and I think your results are fantastic as well. You experience those on a daily basis so they're not small results by not needing glasses or not getting your hayfever. That's fantastic that you're not having to deal with that, the outcome, either taking a histamine or not. It's a big difference I think, so good on you for..

    NATALIE:

    Thank you, yeah. I'm just such a big advocate for people just feeling amazing and being here for as long as you can be in this body.

    FELICITY:

    In good health.

    NATALIE:

    In the best body that you can be. You don't have to be a UFC fighter or a celebrity to have one of these systems. They're easily accessible and that's my mission, to get this information to people. To go, "You know what? I know you think you're doing the right thing with drinking the bottled water", and the other side of that too Felicity, really quickly is the expense of it. You take away all your bottled water expense, never buying it again, no cleaning chemicals in your house, ever again. That's huge, because they're really expensive.

    FELICITY:

    Well that's right. When I grew up, who would have thought bottled water would have been an industry, in its own right? It's amazing.

    NATALIE:

    Well the other thing with the bottled water industry too, it's very unregulated. It's especially ..  You're stripping all the minerals and everything out of the water too, to take it through a process. It's a chemical-based process, so the water's going through a chemical process.

    FELICITY:

    And Kangen water retains the minerals doesn't it?

    NATALIE:

    It does, yes. Nothing's changed. We don't take out, and even with alkaline waters you buy in the store ..  And this is the other thing I have people in the fitness industry go, "Oh I buy alkaline water", which is literally $10 for a litre, that, one, it's actually manipulated alkaline water, because they've gone through the process. They've taken out all of the minerals and everything and then they've re-added in to bring it back up to the alkaline state that they want it to be, like 8 pH, but you don't know how long it's been in the plastic for either. It's still plastic. So, it's getting rid of that and then obviously the impact on the earth around reducing your plastic.

    FELICITY:

    Well that's right, reducing footprint.

    NATALIE:

    Correct. Absolutely.

    FELICITY:

    So our listeners can contact you Natalie, via your email which we'll have in our show notes.

    NATALIE:

    It'll be nataliedwyerwest@bigpond.com

    FELICITY:

    Okay. So we'll put that in our show notes as well and we'd like to really thank you for joining us today. It's been fantastic to learn more about the structure of water that I really didn't have that much idea on.

    NATALIE:

    Oh I can talk about it for ages, I love it. As I said, I'm a little bit of a nerd so I love talking about the chemical element of the water and just helping people just get that hydration up.

    FELICITY:

    Yeah, it’s been fascinating so thank you for joining us and look forward to hearing more success about that product.

    NATALIE:

    Awesome, thank you so much.

    FELICITY:

    Thanks, Natalie.

    NATALIE:

    Thanks, Felicity. Thank you.

    FELICITY:

    Bye.

    NATALIE:

    Bye.

    FELICITY:

    Thanks for listening to the All Torque podcast. We'd love it if you would leave us a rating and review on iTunes. This helps us to deliver content you want to hear about. Please take a moment to share it with your friends and family on Instagram and Facebook. I'm Felicity Dales, see you next episode for another story of inspiration and motivation on the All Torque podcast.

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